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So this is probably not quite fair, but it's also probably not all that far off. In terms of accuracy, getting historical information about the Bronze Age from Homer is about the same as getting 17th century history from Dumas.¹ That is to say, he's quite a bit after the period he's writing about (and if he is actually Dark Age, he has only filtered cultural memory) and his main concern is telling a good story.

This is not to say that you can't get something out of it - cultural attitudes, what kleos is and what it means, usw. But it's not totally historical, and if you get into the mindset "Homer was writing about facts and he was always completely factual about them" you will be led down a very bad path.
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¹ I mean, I totally do this. But we also have real history books.²
² OH MAN THAT WOULD TOTALLY WORK - Nestor is clearly Athos, Achilles is D'Artagnan, Diomedes (or maybe Ajax the Greater?) is Porthos, and Odysseus is Aramis. Agamemnon can be Cardinal Richelieu.
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Not that I really like tripartation or anything. But if you're looking for it, and you're not trying to gloss over things that don't fit your theory, like some famous Indo-Europeanists whose name I will not mention, then you can find it.

It helps that there's three main characters. Väinämöinen is pretty obviously first function, especially since you could draw parallels between him and Odin (I refuse to spell it Othinn). He's a magician, and at the end he's the king of something.

Lemminkäinen is a Heracles figure, and is thus second function, in that he uses strength to protect, where V. would use spells.

Finally, Ilmarinen the craftsman is third function - he creates the Sampa, which brings eternal wealth and all that.


There's problems, of course, partly because there's problems with the Kalevala - like Elias Lönnrot making some of it up, and the contamination (wrong word, but whatever) of the Finnish culture by others, Indo-European and non, and the fact that it's from the nineteenth century.

There's also that the heroes aren't gods, but I think, especially in light of the last story, which is a barely veiled version of the Christ story, than they are euhemerized, like Mebd and Fergus in the Táin. (although there are gods - they're just more like nature spirits.)

In any case, I don't think you can say that there's no tripartation in the Kalevala, which Dumézil does.

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